Of Love and Expectations

8 May

I do believe in love, love that betters and completes both the people involved, and not the love that fools either or both.

- Apoorva Maheshwari

That is probably the best and simplest description, if not definition, of love I have come across. Most aspects of the human life are a trade. A modern day barter system. You get something in exchange for something. Love is no exception. I consider love not as a magical spell open to the whims of mysticism but a trade between two persons on an emotional level. A trade of ideals and of principles. It is logical and rational and definitely not blind. When I love someone, it is because I adore and respect certain qualities in that person and I know that the person feels the same for me. There is a sharing of ideals and principles. Both persons learn and understand themselves, each other and the world a little better. Each person becoming the fuel for the other to keep moving and living. A pillar of support whenever things get rough and a source of belief when the other questions his ability.

This love is not just restricted to the most intimate of relationships. Its true of love between friends as well. The degree of admiration and mutual connection determines the level of love and closeness of relationship. Of course you will never get a clone and in fact it is definitely not desirable that the person you love, your friend, be exactly like you. Every person has a few shortcomings and these need to be filled to some extent by those that he loves and those that love him. A mutual exchange. A human photocopy will not do.

Then comes an aspect that is a source of huge misunderstandings. That of expectations. Without doubt, this is the biggest cause of friction in most relationships. A source that gives rise to pain and illusions. In any relationship, expectations are prevalent. But there is a need to weigh them on a scale of rationality. Both the people involved in a relationship are individuals. Both have freedom of choice and are free to adopt and follow their own philosophy. Both have free will. Both will act or behave according to the philosophy they follow. So to expect someone to do something will inherently imply a constraint on his freedom unless he was planning to do the same regardless of the expectation.

Let me try to demonstrate the above statement with an example. I will take an inanimate object on purpose because it will behave independently, ideally and according to the laws that govern it. It will be independent of whims.

If I drop a cricket ball from the top of a building and “expect” it to fly instead of drop down I am restraining its natural behavior, its freedom. The ball will of course not let me restrain its freedom. It will drop down and I will feel hurt since my expectations were not met. But had I expected the ball to drop down, and then let it go, the ball would have met my expectations. Not because it cared for me, but simply because it would have done that regardless of my expectation. That’s the difference between irrationality and rationality.

You cannot escape irrational expectations without getting hurt, and rational expectations are really not necessary at all. They would be met regardless. You cannot pre-suppose a victim. You cannot expect someone to give up on their free will to achieve yours.

Thus in a relationship, there is effectively no place for expectations. Anyone expecting anything off you, if being irrational, is bound to get hurt if you do not sacrifice. On the other hand if you do sacrifice to meet their expectations, you will be hurt. There is no middle ground here. Never consent to irrationality. Make your stance clear. Do not expect the irrational and do not try to meet irrational expectations.

Rational people will always say that you always meet their expectations. That is not because you did anything special to meet them. You would have done those things, taken those actions regardless of their expectations. But since your ideals were similar, they benefited from it. Irrational people will always expect sacrifices and will always be hurt because you “failed” them. Do not succumb to or even encourage such behavior. Most people might be a combination of rationality and irrationality. Make sure that your association with them stays as far as their rationality remains.

You will not get hurt. No one can hurt you without your consent. Don’t expect people to be perfect, but select the aspects you want to associate yourself with.

“This is a response to Apoorva Maheshwari’s post Too close for comfort on Vagabond’s Ramble.”

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13 Responses to “Of Love and Expectations”

  1. gunjan May 8, 2008 at 4:54 pm #

    For a word such as LOVE I feel its inapt to explain it with an example of rationality/irrationality. This is in regard of the beleifs which we can not unlearn now i.e Love should be expressed more in words of feelings.
    But nice pick for a statement(apoorva’s) to A) ponder B) write :)

  2. Apoorva May 8, 2008 at 7:37 pm #

    i don’t agree with gunjan (is it u ganj?)
    love is just as rational as mathematical addition.
    nikhil thank you for an awesome response to my big doubt!
    crystal clear it is.

  3. Nikhil Pawar May 8, 2008 at 8:13 pm #

    Gunjan,
    I did not explain love with an example of rationality. Quite the contrary actually. If rational, love becomes simple, easy, absolutely great and empowering. Rationality is the underlying framework, not an example. Love is one of the many aspects it helps us understand. Surely you don’t expect to sacrifice something of value to you simply because the person you care for asks for it. Such a demand should have never arisen. Thats all I have argued.

    Apoorva,

    love is just as rational as mathematical addition
    I agree, rationality simply makes things black and white. Makes life easy. Thank you for the compliment. Always glad to assist

  4. Rikki May 9, 2008 at 2:29 am #

    Gullu paaji,
    very very correct that rationality/irrationality is out of question…for human emotions be it love, et cetera, are a bunch of complex equations triggered of circumstances and incomprehensible by the so called geniuses of mind !!!!
    Pappu,
    First of all u are zero when it comes to mathematics so thats out of the question…
    Secondly, U say u believe in love, mark your words here as belief like in love is irrational and blind, u love a criminal, u love an idiot, u love a dick head, who cares, because u r in love and u want no rationality in it !
    Nikhil,
    Very true that gravitational force in ball, lofty feelings in love, all are unrestrained and for u and pappu both believe in the Mind God then here’s a an adage from the greatest mind ever, Albert Einstein , who says, “If you live life with reason , the possibility of life is destroyed”
    why you want to make this colorful life black and white is I completely disagree of….

  5. Nikhil Pawar May 9, 2008 at 11:21 am #

    Hi Rikki,
    I’m not sure under what circumstances Einstein said that, but it is not true at all. Probably, the statement has been taken out of context.

    Human life has reached a civilized (or lets call it modern) state because of intelligent men who chose to think. We would have still been in caves and jungles, if existing at all, had it not been for the rational and thinking mind. A series of scientific and industrial breakthroughs came only because of it. That is why I can have this conversation with you today.

    Humans needed to survive. We were not armed with any physical weapon. The mind is our only weapon. Our tool for survival. Without using it, we would have perished long ago. And using the mind implies using it rationally. With reason as the only parameter. So for me, the statement by Einstein was shocking.

    You said that u may love a criminal or an idiot. But would one do so because he is a criminal and because he is an idiot? Simply because there is something lacking in him? I suppose not. You have said it yourself that the reason is because he cares (for u). Then that is the quality you uphold. Not the ones he lacks. So it is perfectly possible to love a criminal and an idiot if he possess some quality of value. Thats my argument. And of course you would want to make sure he stops his criminal activities or learns a few things simply because it is in your (and his) rational self interest. Him getting arrested will not be good for either of you. So u love him because he cares and u want him to stop his criminal activities. All follows from reason and rational self interest.

    Again, I would like to emphasize that I have not “defined” love using rationality, but simply used rationality as an underlying framework to understand our “actions” when in love. And have discussed “expectations” as one such action.

  6. Apoorva May 9, 2008 at 4:56 pm #

    ahaan…nice baccha log!
    now speaketh the queeen.
    i’ll just keep it to love.
    when i say “I do believe in love, love that betters and completes both the people involved, and not the love that fools either or both.”
    i completely vehemently disagree that love is blind and/or irrational. at least it is not so for me.
    and trikki singh that is why i say i don’t believe in love that fools either or both. love for me is not something that takes two people in some parallel universe where everything is pink and fragrant. love to is me is therefore rational and embedded in the real. and when u take urself/ ur love out of the real u fool urself/ur love.
    and rikki ‘+’ is the only mathematical operator i understand.

  7. Rikki May 10, 2008 at 2:04 pm #

    Nikhil,
    Well ! what is objectionable here is “Loving for reason” !
    This is no revolt or revolution against anyone, as in , “tum mujhe khoon do mein tumhe azaadi doonga”……Love is quite a simple phenomenon based on INSTINCT ….Instinct is what drove human civilization and not your rationality….It was instinctive minds like Newton who saw an apple falling from a tree and gave you such beautiful laws of motion…..It was their instinct and not the rationality which was the genesis of human civilization !!!
    Love requires Passion and purity of mind and not the mean heart of a trader trying to barter his love in exchange of satisfaction

    have opposed the same barter system in my blog too, “ek paimana pyaar ka”…”http://bhen-de-takke.blogspot.com/”

    pappu,
    teri ganit to ab kya kahen…masha-allah !!!
    anyways, tell me what is more pristine of sanity or insanity ?? Obviously, the answer is insanity as a lunatic person doesn’t have the power to think rationally and hence devoid of telling lies and being hypocrite…..and thats where love grooms…..Be MAD IN LOVE and if you have not in love then “who knows when the lightning could strike”

  8. jiya May 10, 2008 at 4:04 pm #

    ok ..wow this is really really stupid ..this little seminar that you guys have goin on here about love ..is well pathetic ..it pisses me off..because you guys actually have balls to tell people how to love. whether you are rational or you do no use your brain at all (you know who im talking about) ..at the end of the day ..its your crap deal with it the way you want.stop boring me to death!

  9. Nikhil Pawar May 10, 2008 at 4:29 pm #

    Jiya, Rikki,
    Again I must reiterate that I am not “preaching” how to love. My sole point of discussion was expectations once you are already in love. Those expectations need to be weighed on a scale of rationality simply to protect your and your loved ones.

    Rikki,
    Your argument of instinct versus rationality is flawed. First let me clear that I did not claim that it was rationality alone that pulled us out of the primitive. It was the thinking mind. You cannot attribute that to instinct. For Hitler’s actions as well as Newton’s actions were backed by instinct. Instinct cannot distinguish between the two. Yet we know that those two actions are poles apart.

    As far as not loving for a reason goes… why aren’t you in love with every person you meet? Why do you select a few. The selection is because you look for some qualities (knowingly or unknowingly) in that person. If a person is devoid of all the qualities you uphold, you wont love that person, would you?

  10. jiya May 11, 2008 at 1:14 am #

    Grr.. stop really ..stop.

  11. Rikki May 11, 2008 at 12:49 pm #

    well !, just a final note then…
    Jiya and Nikhil, It’s probably true that LOVE is incomprehensible with our levels of patience and intellect .I wonder at times that Love is a lost reality scarcely existent in this phoney world.
    And so would revert back to this post if ever I’m hit by these ethereal vibes…..
    To end with here’s a quote from tolstoy, ” Love is a heavenly feeling, hard to be realized on earth”.
    cheers

  12. gunjan May 11, 2008 at 1:09 pm #

    Oh.. u ppl went so far.. Not bad..
    with due respect to each and every one considering jiya to be the bouncer, we should just understand NOW, that we all have different viewpoints (backed by one on each side) and with topic such as this we will have no conclusions and no story crux to halt at.
    on the grounds that each one of us have something in our real life to support all this(all r 20+) we should all summon to our ideas and views and look after them as and when possible. :)

  13. Milind August 19, 2008 at 5:38 pm #

    Nikhil…

    I recall something (not totally inline) when I went through your post, but worth mentioning and is said by one of the GREAT person on earth – just like Osho he has many followers ;o)

    - Joey performing Monica n Chandlers wedding ceremony.

    We are gathered here today on this joyous occasion to celebrate the special love that Monica and Chandler share. It is a love based on giving and receiving. As well as having and sharing. And the love that they give and have is shared and received. And through this having and giving and sharing and receiving. We too can share and love and have and receive

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